tv The Young Turks With Cenk Uygur Current November 5, 2012 10:00pm-11:00pm PST
[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: welcome to "the young turks." anything interesting happening tomorrow? oh, my god, it's the election. i'm a little nervous.. [ singing ] ♪ ohio ♪ make noise ♪ for your president ♪ barack obama ♪ >> hello ohio. >> cenk: now the republicans are in a little bit of a panic. we have clips for you and they do have one thing in their back pocket, and that's, of course, voteer suppression. [ protesting ] >> you know, five, six ten people in front of you but this is ridiculous. >> cenk: and then the wildcard no one is talking about.
>> nevada i take more votes away from obama. in north carolina, michigan, i take more votes away from romney. i think it's really equal on both sides. >> cenk: now wait until i show you the numbers how much different it is when you include a third-party candidate in which no polling was done until two days ago. oh boy, and the elbow of the day, that's republican-on-republican crime. everybody, it's go time. >> romney: i'm mitt romney. i believe in america. and i'm running for president. >> an underdog senator. nobody thought that he had a chance. now he's the president. >> romney: that is quite an orlando welcome. we ask that you stay at this all the way until victory on tuesday
night. >> i stood with president obama four years ago and i'm proud to be standing here with him today. [ singing ] >> every day i'm concerned about women's rights and health issues. i don't need to tell you about the dangers to roe versus wade. >> tomorrow we begin a new tomorrow. >> we know what change looks like then ♪ ohio ♪ make some noise ♪ >> hello ohio, are you fired up? are you ready to go? >> cenk: have i told you yet that there is one day before the election! in fact, there is already early voting, and already the republicans are suppressing the vote. we'll get to that in just a bit. for the president making his
final pitch. this was in wisconsin. >> obama: that's why i need your vote. if you're willing to work with me again and knock on some doors with me, make some phone calls for me, turn out for me, we'll win wisconsin. we'll win this election. we'll finish what we started. we'll renew the bond that binds us together. we'll reaffirm the spirit that makes the united states of america the greatest nation on earth. god bless you. god bless the united states of america. >> cenk: he sounds like he's in round 12. but all of a sudden in the national polls, which romney had been leading the popular vote switched around. president bush now up 48%-47%. this thing is so close and it's within the margin of error. you don't know who is going to win the popular vote. there are several polls showing. >> obama: takingobama taking the popular
vote. there are four states to look out for and it's owin. ohio wisconsin iowa, and nevada, and it spells out owin. this is a combination of polls up by five in ohio and comfortably in other states. he only needs iowa o nevada, just so you know. so when you look at the combination of polls nate silver is the guy who combines them and does an unique brand of analysis that has been very accurate in the past. he has 49 out of 50 states right in the last presidential election. he has president obama projected to 307.2 electoral votes. that is average and it will be based on the number of states they win. romney is at 230.8 so that's pretty comfortable for president
obama. and 86.3% chance for president obama to win and 13.7% for romney to win the popular vote, and the now there is one analysis too. that's intrade the collection of people betting on the markets. we bring you that because that's also been very in predicting elections over the last several rounds of elections. right now that has president obama at 67.3% chance of winning. all of that looks pretty damn good. what could change that between now and tomorrow? well there are four factors that could screw things up. one is voter suppression. that is huge. they're in the middle of doing that now and in the next segment we'll explain all the dirty tricks that the republicans are doing. then there is the enthusiasm
gap, the republicans that show up to vote could make a different. and late breaking independents, and there are those in swing states who say they have not made up their mind yet. but the real wide card is at the end there. the third party candidate. the reason why it's a wildcard is no one has polled on it yet. which i find stunning. we have cnn polls and says what happens if these others are on the ballot. i have got news for you, they are on the ballot. those are the polls you should have been doing all along. let's take colorado, very important swing state. president obama when the question is just posed obama versus romney, he leads by two points. 50-48. that's in the cnn poll. when you look at it as it is on the ballot, then obama still has the lead, but it's mayor 48-47.
look at gary johnson the libertarian candidate with four points and jill stein with one point. and goode the constitution party candidate is less than a half percentage of a point. but when you put it together, you see how president obama's margin has narrowed. could it make a difference especially when the margin is that small? of course it could make a difference. gary johnson believes it could make a difference in two different ways. >> new mexico, colorado, and nevada i take more votes away from obama. in north carolina and michigan, i take votes away from romney. it's equal on both sides and the fact look i'm more liberal than obama on certainly issues. i'm a lot more conservative than romney when it comes to dollars and sense. >> cenk: gary johnson polling at 5% in ohio, which is nothing to sneeze at when you factor him
into the equation, it makes a difference. jill stein, she only takes from the left side. all of a sudden is it time to panic? let's bring in our own political correspondent, an epic politics man to discuss this. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: now michael, you know i call this a long time ago and i never wavered on that. we'll get to our specific predictions in the program as well but as you look at those independent votes they're much stronger than i suspected. could that be a real issue in some of these swing states. >> well absolutely. it could be an issue in ohio, 5% gary johnson is polling 5% in ohio. the fact that he's taking them from both sides i don't think is really the case in ohio. i don't think it's the case in colorado either.
i think when you see those numbers, you know, johnson was on our show. he talked to us. he was saying things like i take some from romney, i take some from obama i think gary johnson takes votes away from mitt romney in large part. i also think in the state of virginia-- >> really. >> i really do. >> cenk: i want to ask you about virginia too. for instance, in colorado where they have the pot ballot initiative, that's polling really well, but gary johnson is more in favor of legalizing drugs, he's in favor of legalizing marijuana and president obama isn't. he might take more away from obama in colorado, where in virginia he'll take more from romney, do you see what i am saying? >> of course, but the assumption that someone who votes in legalizing marijuana and will
say president obama or i want mitt romney, i'm in favor of that unlikely. what you said in virginia does have virgil goode. he'll take exclusively from mitt romney. and in 2008 there were over 40,000 votes cast for independent candidates in virginia. it didn't matter because john mccain was beaten soundlyly by obama. now the 30,000 votes are all coming from mitt romney voters and that could make a real difference. >> cenk: and virgil goode is mainly known for being by bigoted. i don't know if people were thinking obama-good, obama-goode. i don't know. >> i believe the minimum result
will be 53-47 romney, over 300 electoral votes. >> romney will win this election by 5-10 points in the popular vote and will carry more than 300 electorate votes. >> romney, very close but we'll win the popular by a half point and electoral college by a very narrow margin. >> i forgot my number but we have a graphic here. i'm projecting minnesota to go for romney. >> the independents are going to decide this race in all of these states. >> did you watch the president this morning? this is the guy who is really rattled. tied for 47-47, that means that the incumbent is at 47. guess what, that's called losing. >> these polls are all over the place. >> so you're standing by your prediction over a romney landslide. >> absolutely. >> i'm pretty optimistic that this thing is going to come together in the right way.
i base that on just years and years of experience. >> cenk: michael, i have two words as a possible explanation. bath salts. >> yeah, i would agree with that. eleventh hour reputation of the polls is a sure sign of a loser. i don't see what you just said--first of all nothing makes in me more comfort about obama's chances of winning or anything than dick morris saying that romney is going to win. you can throw out nate silver intrade, if dick morris thinks that romney is going to win i'm happy going to bed. >> cenk: in case if you're unclear what they actually think, here come the republican excuses already. >> the hurricane is what broke romney's momentum. >> i actually do believe sandy has had an affect. >> if there has been a momentum change,s because of the hurricane. >> the fact of the storm took the subject matter of mitt
romney's closing statements, and snuffed that out. >> i think you got a hurricane bump out of this. >> nothing is stopping romney's moment. >> it's forced the president for a couple of days to act and look presidential. >> what happened is the news media absolutely blacked out any coverage of the issues that have been the issues of this campaign campaign. >> the robust embrace of chris christie. >> he literally slobbered all over the president. he didn't simply extend a hand, he embraced this president. >> i'm not blaming the news media. >> cenk: yeah, you are. michaelic we have to leave right now. i'll come back and check in with you at "the war room" because we have a lot more to cover. you can tell once they start making excuses about sandy and christie, they think they're going to lose. now when we come back, voters suppression, they're already at it. have you seen what is going on in florida and ohio? we have the devastating details for you. >> at some polling sites there have been parking problems,
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so everybody's rallying, both sides trying to get their base out. very important obviously how they voted especially in ohio and swing states like florida as well. so that is where we've already had early voting. some people have already voted. in ohio, though, the republicans limited it to just one weekend where you can do early voting. it used to be five weekends. why? they don't want as many people to vote. that led to this happening in columbus at abc's mike mccarthy will show us. >> the line stretched down the sidewalk and reached around the corner for at least the second straight day. >> i just wanted to make sure that my vote was counted. >> and hundreds of people are here right now doing just that. it has already been a record-setting year for early voting turnout. already about 10,000 more franklin county residents have come here, have voted in person, compared to the last presidential election back in 2008. >> now, how about in florida?
well rick scott the republican governor there has done his best to limit voting there as well. he has cut early voting hours. there is been long lines eight to nine hours to vote. unbelievable. and he's restricted absentee voting as well. nbc has a report about what happened today. they had shut down some places over the weekend so they had to open up one area today and shut that one down as well. let's let them explain. brbt[ chanting ] >> frustrated voters outside the miami dade election office this afternoon. they came after the county said it would open its doors to provide and accept absentee ballots today. but so many voters up that election officials were overwhelmed, shut their doors then decided to reopen. the democratic party sued to extend early voting after some voters were stuck in lines hours trying to meet yesterday's deadlines. >> you have, what, five hours now? >> we'll bring in rashad
robinson, the executive director of color of change. rashad i know you have been fighting this all along throughout the process here. do you think they're targeting minority areas because they tend to vote more democratic? >> absolutely. this is an ongoing and coordinated attempt that has been happening for a number of years, but in particular since 2010, both in florida and in ohio. they started attempts to roll back early voting in both of those places to put in restrictions starting with weakened voting where -- weekend voting where there had been a number of efforts in african-american communities programs like take your soul to the polls of black churches, this was an arrow targeted right at those communities right at our communities and now we're seeing the results. we're seeing lines similar to what we saw in 2000 in florida and lines similar to what we saw in 2000 in florida in ohio. and neither state being actually
able to manage what they've put in place which are these huge lines and not having the infrastructure in place to actually get people through the polls in a speedy process. >> now, we just showed a bunch of pictures there that were all in ohio and florida huge lines. let me give the audience a sense of how targeted this is. voting restrictions in ohio, 28 precincts, and they were all -- i shouldn't say all -- they were mostly african-american, and then when you see the numbers in pennsylvania precincts that were targeted for mitt romney poll watchers were 79% african-american and in miami dade in florida where you had the restriction 64.5% hispanic, 19.3% black. rashad, how do you fight back? if you have republican governors willing to be this brazen. look that those stark numbers and say, i don't care, by hook or crook i'll limit your vote. how do you fight back? >> we have been fighting back a number of months.
we've won and lost battles. in ohio, just months ago leading a rally in front of the secretary john houston's office, delivering over 70,000 significants and petitions, we were able to work with the legal folks and get the last weekend restored and early voting during the weekdays restored, but we weren't able to get the other weekends restored. we were able to do some fightback in florida and at least work to help people understand what they had to do to be able to vote. that said, we're doing a program called video to vote this election cycle and we're urging people to use their cell phones. go to color of change.org, go to vote.color of change.org and, through this program, we're starting up everyday people to capture what these true to vote poll watchers are doing. true to vote is polling over a
million and you've seen out of pennsylvania they're targeting black voters, not even high democratic communities but black communities specifically to challenge peoples' eligibility, to say you can't vote because we think you might be formally incarcerated, you can't vote because we don't think that you actually live at that address. this is intimidation at its highest form. this is exactly the type of thing my grandparents and great garnets hadgreatgrandparents dealt with in the south in the jim crow era. we're highlighting this so the media doesn't tell this fake, two-sided story. >> rashad, thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> we're turning to congressman gracie from florida running again tomorrow and looks like he's in good shape.
congressman grayson thanks for joining us on the young turks. >> thank you. >> i want to talk to you about florida, right now public policy polling has president obama up by 1 point but as you see all this voter suppression efforts throughout florida it makes me concerned, obviously. so if you get back into congress, is there anything you can do to make sure the republicans don't do this in every single election cycle? >> yes. look, we have to expand the voting rights act to make sure that the right to vote is effective. in orange county they suppressed the vote by cutting the days down from 14 to 8. early voting is 2-1 democratic, has been for many years. by cutting down the days, they've cut down the votes there is 30,000 fewer people who voted in orange county by early voting because they cut down the days some people were online past midnight a few days ago desperate to voted. why? because they cut the democratic vote. who has to vote by mail?
who has to vote early? it's people who work on tuesdays. it's an affront it's an insult to working america to cut back on these hours. we have people here in orange county inos in osceola county who have two jobs tuesday start at 6:00 or 7:00 in the morning and get off 89:00 at night, they have to vote -- 8:00 or 9:00 at night and they have to vote by mail and the republicans are determined to see their votes are not counted. >> people have a disconnect saying i can vote as a republican in my state as governor, secretary of state and it won't affect national politics, but whenever we get these elections it winds up affecting national politics a lot, doesn't it? >> this is a new tack by the republicans. you will often see them do things like vilify the undocumented because they can't vote. they vilify teenage pregnancies teenagers can't vote either. they do something very dangerous
and new they're vilifying the voters and i think it's going to backfire on them. >> congressman alan grayson. one more question for you are you going to win tomorrow? >> looks that way. we're doing very well. we've run a kick-ass campaign so you're going to see a kick-ass result. >> strong as always, congressman grayson. thanks for joining us on the young turks. >> thank you. >> when we come back, wife got a lot more for you obviously on the election. first of all if you live in a non-swing state and you're more progressive than the president is it okay to consider voting third party? >> this is what democracy looks like in the 21st century. i'm afraid it's going to take some courage -- >> we'll find out if any of the turks will vote for her since we live in california. and then, oh, they're all so mad at christie! it's fun for everybody.
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number one, supreme court. he has been excellent on that. two progressive justices and makes all the difference. not just in rowe vs. wade which is very real that i could be gone if we elect one more republican, but also on issues like citizens united, very important to have progressive rather than right wingers on the supreme court. and then i put deregulation disaster as number two and i'll tell you why. if you deregulate the banks anymore or if you don't regulate them as much as we have to, they will collapse the economy. there is no question about that. they might collapse it under president obama. he's not regulating them enough. but under romney, it would be a near guarantee. number three is income inequality. again, not just because it's grossly unfair and the giant tax cuts for the rich, it endangers the economy. every time we have economy this high we have a massive crash as in the great depression and in 2008. then the deficit people don't
mention that but the republicans are horrible with the deficit! all they do is they add and add! look at romney's plan! the tax cuts are so gigantic it would cripple our budget and add so much to the deficit! and i'm actually, in that sense a hawk, a conservative on the deficit, so i would never want to elect a republican on that basis and, by the way as you saw number 5 there another war in the middle east. no interest in that whatsoever. that was one of the top reasons that i couldn't wait to get bush and cheney out of office because i was so afraid they were going to launch that war against iran any minute. then there is the issue, of course of mitt romney. how do you vote for this loathesome character? lie after lie! one of the most disingenuous guys i've ever seen, a total and utter corporate roll bond. a guy who placed his fidelity to donors. it's go desk. we've just hit the tip of the
iceberg in collecting some of the inbelievable moments in his campaign. >> he said he would cut the debt in half if he became president. instead he disabled it. so he raised taxes on companies as opposed to lower them. went to a number of women's groups and said can you help us find folks and they brought us binders full of women. under president obama we've lost over half a million manufacturing jobs. there is only one president that i know of in this country that t robbedicare $716 billion. i put an op ed in the paper and said absolutely not don't write a check for $50 billion. in these documents, a goth r government bail-out check was cashed by none other than romney. this under his presidency, the rate of new regulation introduction tripled. >> i will not have a plan that lowers share paid by higher income folks or raises tax on
millions of americans. 47% believe they're victims who believe that the government has the responsibility to care for them. if you look at all the businesses we invested in, over 100 different businesses, they added tens of thousands of jobs. i know that i pay a very substantial amount of taxes and every year since the beginning of my career, as far as i can recall. >> i love that "as far as i can recall see line. here he is in cleveland ohio. >> -- to drill on federal lands and federal waters -- [ cheers and applause ] >> hey, i represent the oil companies! so the more you see mitt romney, the more you dislike them. a bit of a no-brainer, obviously. my two favorites were him saying president obama has doubled the deficit, which is just a lie. it's an unmitigated unbelievable lie and he says it over and over again. and then when he says he won't cut taxes for the rich, it
amuses me every single time. you already handed in your plan. we see the plan. it's giant tax cuts for the rich! all right, i'm going to bring everybody else in here. ana, j.r. and michael. ana, who are you voting. >> stein. i'm in florida and i can vote without wore ring about splitting the vote and i feel like i'm being honest to myself when i vote for somebody who stands for the same ideology i believe in. keeping the schools public. she's focused on environmental issues. she recently got arrested for protesting the xo keystone pipeline. she's exactly what i would want to think of as a president. unfortunately we don't take third-party candidates seriously so if you're in a swing state you can't vote for her. >> if you were in ohio you wouldn't vote for her?
>> i wouldn't because under our current system, we would split the vote and make it more likely romney gets elected and that would be a complete nightmare. >> jarar, you live in california as we all do, are you going to vote for president obama? >> yeah, i'm sticking the same way. it's one of the situations where i can say the other side, but we still get a chance to see about another term. because personally, my biggest beef for the first four years for obama's presidency was this capitulation this worry about looking bipartisan and trying to be so good to the other side that's blatantly and purposely trying to derail everything he does, i think he will have a chance and have more thought process of changing things than worry about getting reelected. >> they never do that. in my experience, that second-term hope is always -- it
never happens. they always do the same exact thing they did in the first. >> i like jayar brought that up. for me, i was such a staunch supporter of obama and i was out there talking to my friends about it, being so supportive of him, and i feel like, at the end, it was embarrassing that i voted for someone who didn't keep all the promises he made during his campaign. i know it's impossible for a continue do do that, but, at the same time, he let us down on a lot of different issues especially when it comes to corporate welfare. >> quick michael. >> i'm really excited to reelect the president tomorrow, to vote for the president. i wouldn't think about a second about voting for jill stein. i think the president has been a pretty good president. you know i came to him late. i was a biden a hillary guy then finally what was i left with and i think he's done a good job. there are places where i have problems with him but i look at
your in your opinion one cenk, the supreme court. if this next president has to replace any justices, i want it to be barack obama. >> jill stein is actually to the left of me and that's why i would have voted for rocky anderson if it i was just voting on best policies. but i thought i would have to be intellectually honest and said if i would have voted for obama if i lived in a swing state, i should vote for him here, then you fight for justice in the long term in many different ways. but right now you've got to choose between obama and romney. that's the reality. and i obviously choose obama over romney, who would be a complete and obvious disaster. all right now when we come back we're going to talk about states. chris murphy running for senator in connecticut. we'll talk to him about his race and how are the races all across the country going for democrats. the answer is surprisingly well. let us show you when we return.
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>> all right, so how are the democrats doing in the non-presidential races, in the senate races? well almost shockingly well. let me show you massachusetts first. now, this, of course, is the famous brown-warren race. there is elizabeth warren with a sizable lead. that's real clear politics, a combination of the polls more than likely to be true. she's over 50% there and has over 3.5 points or exactly 3.5 points on scott brown. then you go to missouri where we had todd akin and he used to be leading but no more. latest poll by public policy polling has him down by 4 points. democratic claire mccaskill leading there. in indiana returned hour dock made outrageous comments about
rape and how god intended it. he had the lead and lost it. joe donnelly the democrat leading 45-42. then nevada, there the republicans are still leading but berkeley is closing in on dean heller, 2 points behind. even there they're not comfortable. in montana, john tester has retaken the lead 48-46 over dan imr rehberg so the democrats democrats might hold on to that seat and in bibi tammy baldwin with a significant lead over tommy thompson. these days, 3 points is significant and i've seen more polls where she's more comfortable. when you look at all that you go damn! might not only the democrats lose seats they might gain seats in the senate. which leads us to connecticut where we had joe lieberman retiring so-called democrat, and chris mcmurphy, real democrat, running against linda mcmann. linda mcmann said it's tough trying to run as a republican in
connecticut so let's deceive people to think i'm running on the same ticket as president obama. >> i'm supporting linda mcmann and barack obama. >> i'm voting for barack obama and linda mcmann on the independent line. >> i'm voting for president obama and linda mcmann. >> almost everyone in that is black. hilarious. nonsense hasn't worked. chris murphy leading 52 to 43, a sizele lead in connecticut according to the latest poll. and chris murphy joins us now. congressman murphy, thanks for coming on "the young turks." this will be the same tradition he has come on before every election he has won to "the young turks" no matter where wear are. congressman murphy, how does this stand? >> first of all not really a superstitious guy except on elections. i've worn the same suit on every election day since i ran for state representative when i was 25 years old and now i've got to
come on "the young turks." this is good karma. [ laughter ] it feels good. it's clear linda mcmann is grasping for straus now. that ad is ridiculous and people see it as that. when she was asked a day or two after that ad, name one thing that you agree with president obama on, and her answer was -- next question. this is a candidate who is going to fight president obama on everything. but when you're down in the polls, those are the kind of ads you run. we think we'll have a big victory here tomorrow and we're excited about it. >> now when it comes to the point of deception of the republicans, which she has said she's obviously endorsing romney voting for romney. in fact, her and her husband have given over $100,000 to romney's campaign, but this year in ads people say i'm voting for linda mcmann and president obama. so they've got nothing especially in a state like connecticut. if people are so undecided in
connecticut, what is the one thing that makes the biggest difference between you and linda mcmann? >> well, i think we're right now in a fight for the future of the middle class. it used to be when republicans ran in connecticut they had some level of independence from the national republican party. not so here. linda mcmann said she'd privatize medicare, end social security if she had the chance, that she would side with the war on contraception, and i think the big issue here is that, you know i'm fighting for the middle class. i want middle class tax cuts. i want to preserve social security and medicare. i want to make sure we end the outsourcing of our jobs and mcmann as shown no willingness to break away from the tea party orthodox in washington and that's really upsetting to people. so i think when undecided voters are making up their mind, they shouldn't believe mcmann when she says she's an independent voice. they should look at what she actually stands for and she is in lock step with the tea party and in some instances further to the right of them.
so that's what's going on here in connecticut. i think people are waking up to the reality that linda mcmann could be the 51st vote for a very destructive republican majority in the united states senate and they don't want to be a party to that in this state. >> and you're not going to follow the tradition of joe lieberman in terms of democrats from connecticut right? >> senator lieberman and i have add differences over the years whether it be on our positions on healthcare or the war i'm going to cut my own path. >> chris murphy. we appreciate it. we'll see how it turns out for you in the election tomorrow. all right. now, when we come back, we've got predictions very specific predictions. how many electoral votes, how many states will the democrats win and your memory, of course, some of those predictions don't turn out as we current tv encourages you to vote on november 6th but just as importantly to take the time to learn about each candidate's stance on the issues that matter
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dictions. giving president virginia, ohio, wisconsin, nevada, mitt romney the state of colorado and the state of north carolina and my little out on the limb here because of the resent trends that are happening in the past few days in the polling i'm actually going to give the president to win florida again this time around. >> that's pretty bold, man. that's 323 electoral votes. so you're putting 323 on the map for obama. that will be a crushing victory. >> it would be a big victory. 323 to 215. actually, i think the one that i'm sort of the most tentative would be florida, but i actually think now after looking at a lot of the polls that it's a chance worth taking. >> all right now i'm going for president obama pennsylvania, which is obvious. i think he's going to win wisconsin, ohio, nevada and iowa, i think he has a comfortable lead in there.
new hampshire, i think he has a lead in. i don't think that's controversial. i think president obama has a decent shot at winning colorado. i'm going to give him colorado. but i take away virginia and florida. so when you do that and switch that up, there you go. >> you're at 290 cenk. >> i'm at 290. i'm surprisingly conservative here. i think the range is anywhere from 277 jong 277, i don't think less than that, to 323, which is your prediction. but i'm kind of in the middle at 290. again, on this, you shouldn't trust my gut that's ridiculous. you should look at the polling. as you say he is surging in florida. we'll see how it turns out. on the other hand, what goes into my gut is the voter intimidation suppression validation issues, et cetera, we have been looking at. we're not making it up out of nowhere. when you look at the senate races, i'll be bolder and think democrats will do better there. i think that the -- in the
senate they're going to pick up seats. they will be at 55, michael. what do you think? >> cenk, i'm actually joining less. that is my ceiling. one thing to keep in mind when you talk about the senate, the democrats had 21 seats and two independent seats that they caucus with that were up for reelection. the republicans 10. so you would think that, at some point, that a victory would be just staying the same, which is what the 53-47 i predict dictates. however, there are a couple of senate races that could go in a different direction making 55 not out of range so i think it's a good, bold call. >> i think they're leading basically, already in 54 -- in enough races where they would win 54. i'm being bold by saying they might win in north dakota or nevada and one of these states where they're not currently leading, and i believe angus
king in maine will caucus with the democrats and puts them at 55. if you're right about the electoral map and i'm right about the senate, then the story will be, on wednesday, my god in what we thought was a close race, here the democrats actually did stunningly well. >> and, my god people should watch "the young turks," is the other story that would come out of that. >> i like that story. thank you michael. when we come back, republicans sensing they might be in a little bit of trouble throwing elbows around. that's going to be
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back on "the young turks." one day away from the election and the republicans might be feeling like, oh, we might not pull this thing out so they've sharpened their elbows for each other. first, paul ryan's people putting out an article about hey, even if they lose, paul ryan's got a lot of possibilities! in fact, a quote from the governor of ohio, john kasich, and he referred to governor ryan... and they talked about how ryan might run in 2016, even if they lose. there is a lot of "if they loses" on there. so it appears ryan miff thrown romney in the ring. hold on! i'm just going to climb on top of here and see! in other words don't worry about romney, even if we lose, i've got in thing covered. apparently the romney people
didn't like that so much. they leak an article to political about, you know what? ryan wasn't even our first pick, we were thinking of going with chris christie. here's a quote from that article, "the strong internal number for christie and romney's initial instinct to pick him reflects how conflicted the nominee remained about choosing a runningmate till the end of the process." in other words, ryan get in the middle of the ring and see how that works for ya. oh yeah! you're dealing with a big guys! yeah! but, you know what? in the same article they had to say, by the way we don't like what christie did last week, embasing obama like that. so they have this quote... so big guy go ahead! step into the ring! they'v